Scores join in Waimea as part of nationwide march
Sunday, March 25, 2018 12:05 am
WAIMEA - Supporters braved the Waimea rain Saturday to walk from Church Row to Parker School, participating in the March For Our Lives.
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The protester with the NRA sign shows just how out of touch the marchers are.
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~70% of all homicides in the US are by firearm.
~4% of homicides are by bludgeon (including hammers, baseball bats, clubs, wrenches and lead piping)
You do the math. The truth is out there…
More “Snopes” B.S.?
nope, FBI
But I have to guess that you don’t believe them either? Make sure that tinfoil hat is in place!
Those numbers are BS.
Multiple reasons as the following are all classed as a homicide by the CDC:
1. Police shooting (regardless of the situation, race, or anything else before you say anything)
2. Self defense killings.
Worse, close to 60% of the actual homicides are gang-on-gang violence. (This is important, as they’ll find a way to kill each other one way or another…)
Sorry you have to make stuff up to back up your position. Those are FBI numbers and they explicitly exclude justified shootings (hence the use of the term homicide!)
Gun control means being an informed and reasonable citizen. Our society has no need for military grade anything. The NRA has gone over the deep end on their policy agenda. Follow the money – look at who and what they are supporting. Out of touch? Perhaps there needs to be a more sane association of gun owners who can put gun into perspective. Why does owning a car and driving have more requirements than owning and using a gun. Things are out of whack.
“When seconds count the police are just minutes away” Brings me to a story (true) getting up in the middle of the night, saw a car stopped on my street someone walking around the neighbor car w/flashlite called 911 told them what was going on. Whom ever it was left after 10-12 min. took police 20 mins. to get here. Only in Hawaii. I use my car most days and if I owned a firearm, twice a year take it out to cleaning.
My background is this: I grew up with guns in a responsible environment. I was also licensed in psychology and medicine. These kids are being used by the left. They are pointing at everyone except those who are responsible for this shooting. Start with the culture of what is a teen, compound that with a “non responsibility” segment of society and a groundswell of anger drummed by the media. Please also remember that the 2nd Amendment wasn’t written for hunting but the preservation of society FROM an oppressive government (think British). I hope that helps.
You got shot at in school?! Classmates and friends killed next to you? If so, you can put a tag on these kids. But you were not, so just leave these kids alone. You can’t measure up to their courage. The 2nd Amendment misinterpretation serves as a hunting license on humans.
1.6 MILLION crimes a year are prevented because the victim is armed.
Why oh why do people think disarming the population will ever reduce crime…
Once again more nonsense. If you have the inclination (or anyone else reading this thread) google the judicial study of supposed “self-defense” stories. They analysed only the testimony of the firearm wielder (which one would assume would have a bias towards the firearm wielder if any bias at all) and they found that the use of the firearm would have been held to be illegal in the vast majority of the cases! Usually they were used to threaten and/or intimidate someone in an escalating argument. The truth is out there, all you have to do is read…
Because it does. Just get off FOX and nurture your logic instead of your fears.
I knew using knowledge would spin your head. Long sentences and rational thoughts are something foreign to you. My best hope for you is that the robot burger flipper doesn’t take your job. You will die alone and in a basement with the TV screen on a test pattern. Irony…
Bearing arms is a right, driving on public roads is a privileged. Why is that so hard to comprehend?
@NevahHappen:
The right to peaceably assemble is a right. You still need to tell the authorities that you are going to do it (register) and get a permit (background check).
Free speech is a right. You still can’t yell fire in a movie theater (have automatic weapons), slander someone (bump stocks and other add-on devices), be obscene (limited magazine size), incite violence (…
Why is that so hard to comprehend?
Hey, hey NRA: How many kids did you kill today!?
ZERO
Every day, 46 children and teens are shot in the USA
Every day, 7 children and teens die from gun violence:
4 are murdered
3 die from suicide
Every day, 40 children and teens are shot and survive:
31 injured in an attack
1 survives a suicide attempt
8 shot unintentionally
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80% gang related – we should regulate gangs!
Democrats cause murder:
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Fake stats, snopes is your friend, check it out before you believe these lies.
Snopes is a left wing cesspool and exposed some time ago now. Only committed leftist believe their crap and try and use it as information.
You may use whatever ad hominem attack you care to, however snopes uses quoted sources of actual facts, and explains how fake info, such as you showed, are derived.
Let the people decide, but give them the tools to do so!
As I said, a leftist stooge source. CNN approved of course.
Snopes= The Onion
1 point for knowing what “snopes” and “the onion” are.
0 points for not being able to distinguish them.
you seem to be an antifa sort person. I did a duckduckgo search on “just how many gun laws are on the books” It’s an eye opener. You see Snopes the same way I see Breitbart and whatfinger, but Snopes is still “The onion”
Rich: I am certainly anti-fascist, and I do believe that the vast majority of god-fearing Americans are too. We did fight the Nazis and the Fascisimo to prove that point (well our fathers and grandfathers did…) The difference between snopes/politifact/et al and breitbart/whatfinger is that the former are trying to provide unbiased information (whether you agree with their findings or not) and that the latter have a political agenda (which they both admit in their missions statements, please read them if you have not).
I prefer to come to my opinions based on objective truths not subjective opinion. We may disagree in the end, but let us at least start on the same page of actual facts.
re: gun laws. I fear that the issue is not how many gun laws there are currently, but rather how effective they are.
I also am anti-fascist and believe in free speech to the max and to protest (march) peacefully. I also feel that hardening our school systems would go a lot further than adding more gun regs to 20K plus on the book know. MAGA
@KonaRich: glad to know you are antifa also.
I too would remove all gun regulations on the books currently and replace them with a simple set that work:
You may feel that hardening the schools would go further than making sensible gun laws but that is simply not what other countries have found. The UK has not had a mass shooting since 1996, Australia the same. These are cultures not far removed from our own, we can learn the lessons that they did. If only we can open our minds to the possibilities.
Might want to reread Knothead. I will never support socialism or communism as the antifa crowd has embraced. Antifa marches seem more times than not to hurt people and tear other peoples stuff up. Fascism like the KKK, BLM and Antifa have no place in a civil society.
@KonaRich: There we were, getting along so well, and you had to bust out with the racist slur. Now your true colors are exposed. Too bad, time to retreat to your echo chamber.
Btw, if you are confused about the origin of knothead use google. The truth is out there…
OK, so the UK hasn’t had a mass shooting since 1996. Great.
However, they now lock people up for shooting people in self defense.
And they have a massive spike in child sex trafficking.
Not to mention the grooming gangs from the Religion of Peace.
Why?
Because now, no one can fight back….
No-one has been jailed in the UK for shooting in self defense for goodness sake. You may be mis-remembering the case of Brett Osborn who was found guilty of manslaughter for killing an unarmed intruder with a knife. It was deemed to be an inappropriate use of force as the intruder was unarmed, and Mr Osborn admitted to deliberately injuring the victim.
That case is still considered controversial, especially as many others have successfully invoked self-defense when accused of murdering an intruder. The main difference in those cases has been that the intruder has been armed with a knife or machete.
Well, you ARE a CNN fan, so much for credibility.
CNN = Commie News Network.
Snopes are liberals, keep that in mind.
Crime control is needed, and there is a convenient connection with a certain political orientation:
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Another fake map. For those interested in debunking this rubbish simply right click on the image, select search Google for this image, and then read the links that show it is fake and where it comes from.
Hey Nevah, you have to try harder than this, you are too obvious! The truth is out there…
They got lots of donations yesterday. And new members.
I’m fixing to buy yet another AR15. And I’ll guarantee it will not aim itself at anybody friendly ever. A different story for those posing as a threat to my life.
Hopefully you will end up blowing off your head
Yeah, and Remington filed for bankruptcy today ROFL
Why the hate on the NRA when Planned Parenthood murders 500,000 unborn children a year, and local offices are given bonuses based on the number that they slaughter. (Did you even know that they gave each office quotas?)
What about Benghazi, her emails, that there are 2 popes alive, that the sky is blue, what about what about what about. It’s the NRA topic! And they are evil to the bone. And they are killing our teenagers. Address THAT.
and they shall beat their ar15s into plowshares
and their bumpstocks into pruninghooks
Jorge Comas
And the socialist will take them away from you for the benefit of “society”.
And you will do as said socialists say or you will banished by the dictator.
Thugs will invade your homes at will and you will not be able to defend your family from rape, theft, murder and or torture. They may get all our guns but they will lose many thousands or more of gun grabbers….we are ready. One good thing though, the police will come after a while to collect you and your family’s bodies.
The government has Howitzers and warthog planes when they come to take your guns threatening the peace in our community. Good luck defending your paranoia-ridden den.
You expose your ignorance of the military. Those volunteering today are not leftists that would join in the tyranny you obviously crave.
The following was posted elsewhere on the Internet 2 years ago. It’s still true. I have blanked out the obscene language to appease the censors. Which is a shame, because it loses some of the nuance…
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Listen, you fantastically ******** ************. I’m going to try to explain this so that you can understand it.
You cannot control an entire country and its people with tanks, jets, battleships and drones or any of these things that you so stupidly believe trumps citizen ownership of firearms.
A fighter jet, tank, drone, battleship or whatever cannot stand on street corners. And enforce “no assembly” edicts. A fighter jet cannot kick down your door at 3AM and search your house for contraband.
None of these things can maintain the needed police state to completely subjugate and enslave the people of a nation. Those weapons are for decimating, flattening and glassing large areas and many people at once and fighting other state militaries. The government does not want to kill all of its people and blow up its own infrastructure. These are the very things they need to be tyrannical ******** in the first place. If they decided to turn everything outside of Washington D.C. into glowing green glass they would be the absolute rulers of a big, worthless, radioactive pile of ****.
Police are needed to maintain a police state, boots on the ground. And no matter how many police you have on the ground they will always be vastly outnumbered by civilians which is why in a police state it is vital that your police have automatic weapons while the people have nothing but their limp dicks.
BUT when every random pedestrian could have a Glock in their waistband and every random homeowner an AR-15 all of that goes out the ******* window because now the police are out numbered and face the reality of bullets coming back at them.
If you want living examples of this look at every insurgency that the U.S. military has tried to destroy. They’re all still kicking with nothing but AK-47s, pick up trucks and improvised explosives because these big scary military monsters you keep alluding to are all but ******* useless for dealing with them.
Dumb. ****.
May I remind you of David Koresh’s compound? And a what a decent tank can do to your cardboard walls?
Or what do you think the government will use to prevent a gun nut like the Las Vegas shooter next time?
This world is not a hand-to-hand video game combat anymore, my little pea pooping NRA blabber mouth. You manufacture your own bump stock and collect pamphlets and membership cards and you’ll get your sad hovel bulldozed incl your nazi flag flying lawn gnomes before you can even say “2nd Amendment”.
They will come for you one way or the other. And the government will succeed. Because the US government is ‘The People”. And the people will have more than guns. and more than you. And you are in the minority disturbing the life and peace for the majority more and more.
not a gun issue,never was, there are 50,000 gun laws on the books enforce them…issue is a human phyco issue!!!!!..cities like Chicago,wash DC,baltimore, NYC have restrictive gun laws and yet still have high murder rates…and you want to take guns from good citizens while criminal scumbags have their guns????? NO WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I have mine and no one is going to take them….aloha to all
No one is trying to take your guns away. in fact, had you taken the time to listen to the student speakers at the march, each and every one of them explicitly made it clear that their aim was NOT to take “good citizens” firearms.
What they are asking for are sensible and enforceable gun control laws, such as complete background checks (no exceptions) and regulation of add-ons that make semi-automatic weapons perform as fully automatic weapons (that are strongly regulated).
BTW, recent polls show that the vast majority of NRA members agree with these positions!
“No one is trying to take away your guns” It’s like boiling a frog, is what they are doing at this time. Although I own no guns here in Hawaii I have to support my friend who, DO.
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Yo mamma catches you and yo gonna have ta take out the trash and clean yo room and she may take yo xbox from ya…
You gotta admit antifaHI is a Hoot.
I sent the NRA-ILA a $50 donation yesterday to let them know I approve of their work.
Blood money. Roll in it.
Thanks for reminding me to buy more ammo this week.
The fact that we are getting backlash and firing comments, just shows that we are getting all your attentions! Change is coming and this is how it starts. Thank you for everyone who came out and thanks for the haters, you both get us to where we need to be
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Though you probably do not care as it does not fit your agenda, a female student was murdered in this incident. She would be alive today if the perpetrator had not had a gun.
Oh, and btw, the perpetrator shot himself – look it up, the truth is out there…
Umm… no gun? No problem… he’d have brought a knife.
And no, he didn’t shoot himself… he was shot by the SRO. And neither victim in the case was killed, although both were hospitalized.
For those interested in ACTUAL facts, rather than those made up by some anonymous forum poster simply google ‘Md. high school shooter killed self, authorities say’ for an article by the local media complete with quotes from law enforcement and references.
Turns out soy-boy Hogg was not eve in school that day. So he said on some see- B.S. show.
The leftists and their propaganda media arm never stop lying in their attempt to overthrow us.
Buy more ammo tomorrow.
Please remember, you’ve got body parts much more worthwhile to shoot at than just your foot
You ROCK, Riley!!! I was there on Saturday and you ALL are our future!! EDUCATION over IGNORANCE!! Keep on, KEEPING ON! xo
So, so, proud of you kids! And that you stick your head out amongst these gun crazies. Stay safe. Keep up the fight–you will have to live in it.
wet rats
Too bad they are just as clueless as always. Will never look at the real causes or who might be behind it:
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1) Look at any other civilized country with more sensible gun laws, and gun deaths are significantly lower
2) The movement is not proposing taking away your guns, so don’t be paranoid! It just wants some sensible laws to keep the most deadly guns out of the hands of the mentally ill, those too young to even vote or buy beer, terrorists, etc. and not allow the most deadly guns used in war the increase carnage in mass shooting (bump stocks, assault weapons). Law abiding citizens can still get guns if it’s important to you. Why wouldn’t you want to try to reduce the risk of your kid being murdered in school by a nut-case, going to a concert in Las Vegas and being gunned down, or just leaving your rural farm?
3) Yes, mass shootings may have increased in the past decade, when Obama happened to be president. It’s a ridiculous argument that he or the democrats caused it. You could argue it was after loosening of restrictions in the previous decade, with Republican Administration and often Congress, as well as Republican-led state governments. Or more likely not related to the president. Obama was unable to make progress because after Sandy Hook, the Republican-led Congress prevented any meaningful action.
4) Our gun laws (or lackthereof) in our society are radical. Fueled by irrational fear propagated by the NRA that the government is going to take away all your guns. The result — a wild west uncivilized society where weapons of war are used to kill innocents everyday. The statistics are off the chart. Doing nothing is criminal, especially when there are so many commonsense things that can be done to reduce some of these preventable murders.
Tom… 11 teens per day are killed because of texting while driving. Just as with guns, there are laws against texting while driving, just as there are laws against shooting people for no reason.
Sadly, in both cases there will be people who ignore said laws and kill people.
Oh, and over 250,000 people are killed in vehicle accidents per year, far more than the < 10,000 shot and killed. (Yes, < 10,000... the larger number you always hear bandied around includes almost 70% suicides...)
You just make stuff up as you go along don’t you?
In 2015 there were 35,485 motor vehicle related deaths in the USA (source NHTSA)
In 2015 there were 36,252 firearm related deaths in the USA (source FBI)
If in doubt, go to the source – the truth is out there…
Yes, laws and rules will often be ignored and are sometimes difficult to enforce. But that’s not a reason to not have laws and rules. There are too many obvious laws that should be on the books to reduce gun violence but aren’t because of a radicalized minority who worship guns (a psychological weakness, in my opinion).
Will better gun laws reduce gun deaths to zero? No. Will they decrease them? Almost definitely (look at other countries), and it is immoral and just plain dumb to not try. I’ll like to see firearm and vehicle deaths greatly reduced in my lifetime. It’s freaking frustrating we have to overcome people like you to live in a safer society. There is a minimum age for driving, tests that needs to be passed, strong enforcement on the road, etc, which match the fact that vehicles can be dangerous when used by fallible or ill-intentioned humans. Guns, which are a lot less important (if at all) to our way of life than driving cars, have less restrictions. It’s outrageous!
Parker School is a leftist Cultural Marxist indoctrination center. Don’t send your children there unless you want your kid to grow up and join Antifa.
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Ironically, it’s the right-wing trolls like you that are in bed with the Russians these days! I guess it’s more fascism than communism though. Either way, definitely anti-American.
Do you have the nards to post up your address so we can discus your attitude?
It wouldn’t matter. I’m not in Russia, so it wouldn’t be easy to meet up.
NEVER let it be said that the country’s news outlets ever let a school shooting go to waste. This marching business is what is being fed into young vulnerable minds in schools. Do you parents ever ask your kids about what they are told in school besides the three “Rs”? Or do you even care?
By the way… to all of you actually supporting this nonsense, please consider the following:
We knew more about the alleged shooter in FL who killed 17 people in the first hour after the killings than we still know about the Las Vegas alleged shooter 5 freaking months after he slaughtered 58 people and injured another 851 more.
Immediately after LV, there were the media, politicians, and celebs calling for gun control; by the next day they had all gone silent.
What. Are. They. Hiding….
Nothing, next question?
It is the FBI, that the liberals now hold up as some sort of holy warrior cult.
They are politicized and not to be trusted.
Wow — you are doing a good job supporting the stereotype of gun-toting folks as nut-cases. Conspiracy theories are for idiots (and our idiot-elected president). Please stay in Russia.